Note that to prevent the game from crashing, Japan mode must be enabled in the S3&K savestate. This is because the game tries to load Tails' lives counter from the Sonic 3 ROM, making the Nemesis decompressor choke on the garbage data. As we previously saw though, the Miles lives counter is part of the Sonic & Knuckles ROM, so that works out.
When you do so, you might notice that Tails appears to be completely invisible. Sonic & Knuckles normally gets its Tails art from the Sonic 3 ROM, and since it's missing, the DMA transfers from that address space simply result in a string of zeroes, which translate to transparent pixels.
Knowing this, you may be surprised to learn that certain gimmicks in the later stages cause Tails to temporarily become visible again, such as the 3D pathways in Lava Reef Zone:
The reason for this lies in the Tails_Load_PLC function. When Tails' mapping frame is greater than $D1, the standard ArtUnc_Tails uncompressed art block is swapped out for the ArtUnc_Tails_Extra art block:
Tails_Load_PLC: moveq #0,d0 move.b $22(a0),d0 Tails_Load_PLC2: cmp.b ($FFFFF7DE).w,d0 beq.s locret_15CCE move.b d0,($FFFFF7DE).w lea (PLC_Tails).l,a2 add.w d0,d0 adda.w (a2,d0.w),a2 move.w (a2)+,d5 subq.w #1,d5 bmi.s locret_15CCE move.w #$D400,d4 move.l #ArtUnc_Tails,d6 cmpi.w #$1A2,d0 blo.s loc_15CA6 move.l #ArtUnc_Tails_Extra,d6It turns out the ArtUnc_Tails_Extra art block is actually part of the Sonic & Knuckles ROM, which is why Tails suddenly becomes visible when his mapping frame is set to a value higher than $D1. Unsurprisingly, those mapping frames don't exist in Sonic 3: they were added specifically for Sonic & Knuckles.
The implication here is that any gimmicks making use of these frames hadn't yet been designed at the time of Sonic 3's release, which is why the frames themselves are missing. On the other hand, over at Flying Battery Zone...
...Tails remains invisible in his monkey bar frames, indicating that those are read from the Sonic 3 cartridge, even when the two games are locked-on. Just another sign that Flying Battery Zone was all but meant for the first half of Sonic 3.
I simply use FFFF09:0002 to enable Tails in S&K, which works without issue. Do note that when doing so, the lives counter says "Sonic" and the results screens display garbage that is only fixed upon a level restart.
ReplyDeleteThe sprite for holding onto the wall in Sandoplis zone is also missing.
ReplyDeleteI don't think you've talked about it yet so I'd like to ask a few things related to the Hydrocity Act 1 boss in S3A.
ReplyDelete1 - Why does it use the Act 2 boss BGM instead?
2 - Why, if you let the air countdown start and then get out of the water, does the S&K Act 1 boss BGM start to play? It's seems to be the only time where track 18 (I think it's 18) is used. (Apparently this glitch also happens in Act 2 but I haven't tried)
3 - It's possible to drown during the score tally but in S3&K this was apparently fixed. Why does it happen and how it was fixed?
Thanks in advance.
I noticed your covering S3 alone stuff so do you think you could cover the unused competion mode objects.
ReplyDeleteCould you talk about the mini Death Egg sprite in S3A? Does it indicate that DEZ had some work done on it?
ReplyDeleteidk i no see noting in the 1st photo and in the 3st Photo just i hate my life
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